John Murphy

This is the Rock House podcast and I'm John Murphy.

Beth Murphy

And I am Beth Murphy.

Our podcast today is fighting for your peace.

John Murphy

I think it's really important to help people focus on this idea that they don't have to linger in loss of peace, that the loss of peace is a battle cry or the loss of peace should become a battle cry or should be something that stirs within us.

A reaction to take on the source.

But I feel like that we fall into this mentality of.

I have this loss of peace.

I have anxiety.

I have fear I have anger.

I have a sense of depression.

Whatever it is, I'm responding to something.

Something happened to my world and it's created this dis floss of peace that I'm suffering with and we have this.

Immediate sort of knee jerk response to go off and justice deal with how it feels instead of going after it and just being like, I don't.

I'm not going to tolerate this.

I'm going to take this on.

I'm going to figure out why it is that I have lost my peace and to approach it from that perspective instead of this mentality that I certainly have done for so many years, but.

Get to where we are drawn into just reacting to my last piece with what am I going to cover it?

How am I going to offset it?

What I'm going to medicate it?

How am I going to deal with the feeling I would just want to talk about getting people to the next level which is to go after the why and try to break this thing off and and use it for how God meant it to be used.

He meant it to be used at every time we lose.

Our peace that there would be an opportunity for something of redemptive value.

Beth Murphy

So, for everybody who has been a client at Rock House and is familiar with the way we.

Thinking and talk as Rock House Center clients, you are accustomed to looking at peace as the gold standard in your life that that's what the program at Rock House account.

The biblical counseling at Rock House is designed to get you to that place of the peace that surpasses understanding that God promises in Scripture.

For most of us.

Though before we get on that track, we may have very little experience with peace.

May not really even have it as a frame of reference, so to give the kind of back up and give the wide-angle view on this whole concept, we value our peace as you get on the whole transformation track.

And you get to a place where you are experiencing and living your life in a place of peace like never before.

Then when it begins to slip, you really notice that it slips because the contrast is dramatic and you do not like it, and so we're looking at encouraging you first to value peace.

And if it is not something you're familiar with if you're not accustomed to leading a life of peace and you've just been taking for granted, feeling, anxious, or depressed or down or discouraged, overwhelmed.

Worried, angry and those are just things you try to kind of push through as a way of life.

Then absolutely, let's start there to acknowledge that that's not the standard that God wants us living by.

He's got a better place than that, and so we want to go after first just putting their stake in the ground on looking for peace in the first place.

John Murphy

Yeah, I think that's really important, and I think that this stirs in me because of that sense of value in peace for so many years.

John Murphy

Not having peace but finally getting to a place where I am feeling peaceful and I'm valuing it and I want it.

John Murphy

I want to hang on to it.

John Murphy

It's precious to me.

John Murphy

I don't want it to escape me.

John Murphy

And I have come to this place where as soon as I feel a loss of peace, it's not OK and I feel less and less drawn to reacting by just covering it.

John Murphy

I more just want to go after it because I want my piece back and I don't want to medicate it with something and have this disturbance sort of underneath some other feeling which feels better.

John Murphy

I actually want to.

John Murphy

Get these bad feelings off of me.

John Murphy

I think that's just kind of the message I want to send out.

John Murphy

Is that we want to get to that place of peace and we want to value. We want to fight for it because it's God's.

John Murphy

Plan for us to be at peace no matter what comes.

John Murphy

He's clearly talked about the peace that defies all understanding a level of peace that's just irrational to the rest of the world.

John Murphy

And that's what he has for us.

John Murphy

But we have to engage him in that moment and to go after the the cause of it.

John Murphy

I you know the analogy to me is like with something cuts our finger, what do we do?

John Murphy

Well, first we make sure that we the thing it's poking our finger is removed so we're not getting poked anymore.

John Murphy

And then we wash the thing and then we bandage the thing up.

John Murphy

And then if we have pain.

John Murphy

Then we take an aspirin so we deal with the emotion or the pain or the response.

John Murphy

The feelings we deal with the feelings.

John Murphy

At the end, and that's really where I want to go is to see that the you know from your feelings that your fingers cut, then you react to the cut and then you start dealing with getting the root cause of the problem resolved, which is pulling the thing out of your finger or your splinter or whatever it is.

John Murphy

And then you go through bandaging up and so forth.

John Murphy

And then you deal with.

John Murphy

How the what the leftover feelings?

John Murphy

The residual feelings would be.

John Murphy

So that's kind of where I would love people to go is get to that place where they feel that pain.

John Murphy

It's like, well, Ouch, you know I react to it.

John Murphy

I see the first thing I have to do is deal with why.

John Murphy

I just felt that pain and then comes after that.

John Murphy

The resolution to however we want to deal with what's lingering after that, but I want to get to where we react with the idea is that I'm going after root causes when I have pain and less of that I medicate the feelings.

Beth Murphy

Another way to think of it is the way that people express that such and such person or situation pushes my buttons, and so if I get really angry when somebody brings up a certain topic or I get upset and I'm fighting back the tears or I just want to argue.

Beth Murphy

Or a whole a concept comes up.

Beth Murphy

The thought enters my mind and now I'm just discouraged.

Beth Murphy

Overwhelmed, depressed, anxious and I was fired 5 minutes ago, so that's a clue that wow, something has just entered my world that brought in a loss of peace along with it.

Beth Murphy

And so.

Beth Murphy

As to what you're saying, rather than just trying to, kind of.

Beth Murphy

Crowd that feeling out or think about something else or override it in some way or medicate it in some way.

Beth Murphy

It's really an opportunity.

Beth Murphy

It's a big opportunity because it points us to the thing that wow that just really flew all over me when that happened.

Beth Murphy

That's just what that completely wrecked me.

Beth Murphy

Day or my moment.

Beth Murphy

That's an opportunity because that means there's something in there.

Beth Murphy

There's some button in there to be pushed, and that's what we want.

John Murphy

To get at yes exactly and the most notable first memory of this.

John Murphy

Experience of having a loss of peace and then reacting in a conversation with Lord and getting off of me.

John Murphy

And it was the one I've talked about before where I'm in the car and some young kid honks at me and stuff and I get all mad and I'm angry and I'd go past the situations out while I'm driving.

John Murphy

I pass through the stoplight.

John Murphy

I go on, and then I'm just going.

John Murphy

Wait a minute.

John Murphy

I just had peace.

John Murphy

I was really in a great place and all of a sudden now I'm all worked up and I'm angry and these are the kinds of feelings that I used to go run off and drink a 6 pack over and try to get off how this thing feels just to escape the feeling.

John Murphy

Whatever thing happened, the spirit, the Holy Spirit just stirred me to ask God what just happened.

John Murphy

And the kind of question where am I?

John Murphy

How did I get to this place where I just had peace 2 minutes ago and now?

John Murphy

I'm all worked up and as I engaged God in the conversation, it he reminded me that I had just judged that kid.

John Murphy

I just gotten angry at him.

John Murphy

I just condemned him and his three generations of his family to hell.

John Murphy

I mean, I just was really angry at what happened.

John Murphy

At that moment, and so I went through the process of asking God to forgive me for that and to, and I forgave him and I forgave the offense.

John Murphy

And I prayed for him and I prayed for his dad and those kinds of things.

John Murphy

I just I just did the praying that need to happen to resolve that.

John Murphy

But then the question was.

John Murphy

But why did you get mad?

John Murphy

What was it about that situation?

John Murphy

What was it inside of you that caused that sensitive spot to where that particular scenario stirred your anger and stirred your condemnation towards that person?

John Murphy

And I was reminded of how unfairly I felt by kids who were my peers when I was growing up, and I was heavy and.

John Murphy

In a bad way and I got picked on a lot and I got bullied a lot and that feeling came back in that moment, which was a sort of an unfair abusive moment is kind of the way it struck me created that sensitivity.

John Murphy

And I had to go back and re forgive those people of my past and I was reminded I really had some more left to forgive.

John Murphy

And so there's the example of taking the moment as an opportunity, asking God why having your peace be something that's precious that you don't want to lose.

John Murphy

And then you start challenging.

John Murphy

Why did I lose it?

John Murphy

And you start going to God 'cause he's the only one with the answer.

John Murphy

And you get your peace back.

John Murphy

But then you ask him why and then you get the healing that comes from doing the hard work.

John Murphy

And that was when I realized, you know, you just have to fight for your peace sometimes, but it comes because it's a precious thing that you don't want to lose.

John Murphy

And that's where the thing that stirs it.

John Murphy

And that's the thing that makes me want to bring in whatever help I need to get from God to get free of it.

John Murphy

Because of my own dedicated self interest, I want to stay peaceful all the time.

John Murphy

No matter what comes at me.

John Murphy

And that's the opportunity we have with the Lord is that he has a place for us to be at peace in.

John Murphy

The middle of everything that comes a big aspect of working.

Beth Murphy

That rockhaus center.

Beth Murphy

Is that we're all very aware of this and.

Beth Murphy

As you can imagine, in the role of being a counselor at Rock House, we want to be highly sensitized to that because you don't want to be walking into counseling sessions trying to help other people.

Beth Murphy

If you're all stirred up and don't have your piece yourself, so we all think of it in the context of sort of being on a short leash, whereas I might have gone for long.

Beth Murphy

Periods of time or did go for long periods of time in my life.

Beth Murphy

Certainly until the point at which we really got on the transformation track.

Beth Murphy

I lived my whole life without having a whole lot of peace and then got to where I'd have losses of peace, and I might let him go on for a year or months or whatever.

Beth Murphy

Now, none of us really want that going on more than a day or so.

Beth Murphy

If we can't connect with God to get God to reveal to us in a way that we can connect with him and get back to our peace, then we go talk to somebody else and talk it through.

Beth Murphy

Get their insights, pray it through because that's such a high value.

Beth Murphy

For all of us, 'cause again.

Beth Murphy

It is the gold standard and it's where we all want to live, and that's what we want to help you understand is can be a way of life that we do not have to settle for feeling anxious, worried, rejected, depressed, discouraged, fearful. None of that comes from God. All that plus another 10X of things.

Beth Murphy

We could list that are the opposite of peace.

Beth Murphy

None of it comes from God.

Beth Murphy

It all comes from the enemy at all it straight from hell, and it all points to a place at which the enemies got access to poke at us, to basically to use scripturis.

Beth Murphy

She's got a foothold in some way, and we want.

Beth Murphy

To thinking of what God asks us to do, we want to become aware of that so that we can partner with God for him to remove the foothold that the devil's got in our lives. We don't want to live that way.

John Murphy

One of the things that stands in the way of that response is a misunderstanding that has to do with how we feel about God.

John Murphy

A lot of people feel like that.

John Murphy

The thing that they are suffering, the emotion that they are suffering that God is.

John Murphy

'cause of it or the situation in their life?

John Murphy

And if you believe that first of all I want to say that God is the cause of peace is the source of peace, is the ally of peace and every loss of peace comes from hell.

John Murphy

No suffering is brought on to us by God.

John Murphy

If you believe that it's going to be really hard for you to, then when you have a loss of peace or something comes up to actually bring God into it because you feel like.

John Murphy

Maybe he's the.

John Murphy

Source maybe I have to figure out why he's mad at me.

John Murphy

Maybe I have to figure out how to please him.

John Murphy

We need to remember that God is a source of peace.

John Murphy

He loves you.

John Murphy

There's nothing you can do to cause him to love you more.

John Murphy

I love you less.

John Murphy

He does not bring us our suffering, so that's kind of one of the lies that stands in the way.

John Murphy

God's plan is that he redeems everything that Satan does, everything that is a loss of peace, and we know all loss of peace comes from the enemy.

John Murphy

Everything is a loss of peace comes from him.

John Murphy

God promises not to be a part of that.

John Murphy

God promises to redeem it all.

John Murphy

God promises to redeem the strategies of Satan for those who know him and love him.

John Murphy

So that's what we want to do is we want to connect with that reality.

John Murphy

So that means that every time I have a loss of peace which is coming from the enemy, the Lord is offering up an opportunity to redeem that experience and turn it into something that's a blessing, something that moves you forward in peace.

John Murphy

And what we've seen is that it results in having a better and deeper relationship.

John Murphy

With the Lord.

John Murphy

But we got to call him into those situations and begin the dialogue.

Beth Murphy

Our interpretation of spiritual warfare is that the epicenter?

Beth Murphy

Of that, the.

Beth Murphy

Battleground for spiritual warfare is our hearts.

Beth Murphy

Our perception is that the enemy does not have access to wantonly just toss us to and fro and cause us suffering we.

Beth Murphy

Unwittingly often do things that give the enemy access which we think of as legal access based on what Scripture says.

Beth Murphy

So what we're looking for here are the ways in which.

Beth Murphy

Which we have knowingly or unknowingly given the enemy access to torment us and to acknowledge that that's where the warfare is is bringing God in for him to do the warfare on our behalf by submit yourself to God.

Beth Murphy

Resist Satan, he must flee all right.

Beth Murphy

So the first part of that scripture is the necessary part.

Beth Murphy

For the second part to happen, and So what we're talking about here is, let's submit ourselves to God.

Beth Murphy

Let's look at what's going on in my heart.

Beth Murphy

Let's look at the way he sees it, which is.

Beth Murphy

I'm all upset, discouraged.

Beth Murphy

Merged, anxious, fearful, depressed, angry, overwhelmed and I want to look at that for what it is and talk to God about revealing to me.

Beth Murphy

We're where in the world and where specifically in my heart did that come from?

Beth Murphy

And I want to lock arms with you, God, I want to submit my heart to you, submit myself to you.

Beth Murphy

For your loving scrutiny and your revolution and the fascinating thing is that God right there, you know, he is always just one thought away and he will lead you to the things that you need to submit to him so that he can do his warfare on your behalf and redeem these places of suffering in your heart.

John Murphy

I think it's a huge opportunity.

John Murphy

We need to recognize that if we take these situations to God, that basically turns the table on, say.

John Murphy

What God can do with what Satan intentions are, is to actually bring forth a level of healing a movement in your heart which closes down that access to the enemy.

John Murphy

This is what Beth talking about here.

John Murphy

Getting out these authorities, giving getting out these permissions that we have inadvertently allowed to occur that give Satan access.

John Murphy

But every time we lose.

John Murphy

Our peace and have a sense of dysphoria.

John Murphy

What we recognize that that's Satan, basically just waving his hand.

John Murphy

And saying I'm here I have access and I'm using the access I have to cause you pain in this situation.

John Murphy

It is interesting about it is that Satan therefore cannot torment us without revealing himself.

John Murphy

A huge concept really critical to recognize it and to take advantage of it, and to know that if there's ever a loss of peace, there's an access.

John Murphy

Point here, which God can come in the middle of and resolve this.

John Murphy

And bring a healing, which by the way, is something that gets better and better.

John Murphy

This is not a once and done thing as we worked with Lord and submit ourselves to him and we cut off this permission that Satan has or access or what do you want to call it for us to lose our peace then that is cut off.

John Murphy

That means that you can experience these situations and the same situation.

John Murphy

Over and over again, and what you'll find is you'll have more and more peace to the point that you always have peace and you don't even know why that situation ever bothered you.

John Murphy

Because the access that Satan has had to beat you up over that has been resolved and he's been removed by the Lord.

John Murphy

And So what Satan does is that he comes through.

John Murphy

He delivers this pain, and we need to understand that that's an opportunity for us to get the healing, which makes it impossible for him to come back and bring us that pain again.

John Murphy

That's the huge redemption.

Beth Murphy

So as we're thinking about how to pray about this, I think there's kind of a structure to this sort of prayer that we can establish so that people can take this structure and do their own prayer and apply it.

Beth Murphy

And really, beginning to have a framework for what they're looking for for how they're going to set this prayer up.

John Murphy

First thing we want to do is we want to reject any lie that we may have that God God is causing our discomfort or suffering.

John Murphy

If we have any belief of that, all we need to make sure that that is removed, because if we believe that then it Tees up this total wrong understanding of what's going on and where the answers are, and another aspect of this is that.

John Murphy

We find ourselves having a lot of dependency on ourselves instead of God for things that only God can do.

John Murphy

So we want to make sure, and it's very often the case that we have some unforgiveness to do, or we have a lie or we have a dependency on something to solve a divine need which only God can solve.

John Murphy

So those are things we want to be sensitive to, and those are the things that God.

John Murphy

I am certain will reveal to you if you'll ask him those things. The other thing we want to do is just ask God's forgiveness for not trusting him.

John Murphy

You know a lot of what's going on here is that we're trying to solve this divine need. This internal spiritual thing in our own way, and our own strengthened by ourselves, and that is not God's plan. God plans for us to do.

John Murphy

And on him to resolve the condition of our heart, and to bring a supernatural peace, no matter what the situation if we do.

John Murphy

If God does reveal something to us, if there's a particular thing like I I count on the approval of others or account of my possessions for worth, or I count on control for peace or whatever.

John Murphy

Those things are, whatever that thing is, we want to reject that because we're depending on that.

John Murphy

Instead of God, so there's that's also a part of how we connect with and pray about these things.

John Murphy

And of course, as we're rejecting our dependency on other things we wanted.

John Murphy

Their our dependency on him instead and that and we wanted to clear our dependency on his truth instead for the peace that he has for us.

John Murphy

We all want to ask God to take away any access the enemy has that we want to ask him to remove that as we are being obedient, submitting ourselves on our heart, damn.

John Murphy

And then we want to declare our dependency on God in his ways for peace.

John Murphy

Because that is the deal.

John Murphy

That he is the source of peace, the enemy is.

John Murphy

Not so we want to make sure that we have found all of our alliances with the enemy that we didn't even know we had in our hearts like we depend on something of the world to give us a divine need.

John Murphy

We want to.

John Murphy

We want to make sure that we are rejecting those things and declaring that only God is the answer and that we depend on God for that, remember that the greatest level of peace you can have is the degree to which you.

John Murphy

Depend on God to fill your divine needs, so that's where we're going with this.

John Murphy

So Beth, I think that now we've kind of broken down the structure here would be good to go.

John Murphy

Ahead and get us started on our prayer.

Beth Murphy

OK, let's just do that.

Beth Murphy

Let's start with asking God to reveal whatever you need to see that you'll use to bring into this prayer.

Beth Murphy

Heavenly Father, I want your freedom.

Beth Murphy

From the ******* of my negative feelings.

Beth Murphy

Please show me whatever it is within me.

Beth Murphy

That has allowed these negative feelings into my heart.

Beth Murphy

Have my father please forgive me for trying to deal with my loss of peace.

Beth Murphy

In my own strength.

Beth Murphy

I declare that only with you.

Beth Murphy

Can my suffering come to an end?

Beth Murphy

And only with you.

Beth Murphy

Can it be solved in my life for the future?

Beth Murphy

Father, I reject the lie that I can do with.

Beth Murphy

My losses of peace.

Beth Murphy

With any sustainable result.

Beth Murphy

Without you.

Beth Murphy

Board or reject any liar dependency on anything.

Beth Murphy

Over the new and your truth from our piece.

Beth Murphy

I declare that you are the God of peace.

Beth Murphy

And that if I lose my peace, it's.

Beth Murphy

Not caused by you.

Beth Murphy

Father, please heal my heart of the.

Beth Murphy

Way I have suffered.

Beth Murphy

And remove any.

Beth Murphy

Access I have allowed into my heart.

Beth Murphy

That's the cause of my negative feelings.

Beth Murphy

Please strengthen me to resist any temptation I may have.

Beth Murphy

To allow the cause of my loss of peace back into my heart.

Beth Murphy

I pray all.

Beth Murphy

This in the name of your son Jesus Amen.

John Murphy

Hey man.

Beth Murphy

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Beth Murphy

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Beth Murphy

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Beth Murphy

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Beth Murphy

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Beth Murphy

Call us at 615-369-0668 or connect online through contact at rockhousecenter.com. Thanks for joining us today and.

Beth Murphy

God bless you.

John Murphy

Thanks for joining us goodbye.